Being Respectful of Believers

[Swearing ahead. You’ve been warned.]

Ok, a rant about religion. Some of you are atheists, some of you are agnostics, and some of you are believers. Some of you who are believers go to church, some don’t. That’s all fine.

Most of you would call yourselves liberal or progressive. My problem is with PERs, or Progressive Except for Religion. You are neither kind, nor tolerant, nor respectful, nor any of that if you refer to people like me as idiots, believers in fairy tales, if you ask if I believe in unicorns too, etc.

Some of you are “recovering” adherents. You may have had bad experiences in the religion you were raised in as a child. I haven’t. I’ve known some assholes, but I’ve also met some of the most wonderful people I have known, including priests and nuns. Your experience isn’t my experience, and vice versa. Let’s both understand that and respect it.

You don’t have to agree with me, you don’t have to validate me, you just need to be respectful.

You can call out the ridiculousness of organized religions, in terms of continued patriarchy, sexism, homophobia, cause of war, need to pay taxes, etc. That’s calling organized religion on its shit, and that’s ok. You can call out for the separation of church and state (but then you can’t demand that Israel remain Jewish, because that would be hypocritical).

You also need to realize that organized religion, like republics and democracies, is run by men. Men are fallible. That men fuck shit up is a well known phenomenon. That has no bearing on whether or not God exists, or why I continue to be involved (however nominally) in organized religion, in my case Catholicism. I’m not going to walk away from God because of a bunch of fuckwits, just like I’m not going to walk away from government and declare anarchy the only way because of the twits in Washington DC.

You may question why I remain, and I’d say I present myself as a liberal Catholic and in that way I am a pain in the ass of the Church. You may disagree with this, but then I’d disagree with your remaining a Democrat to “try and change it from the inside.” We both probably think the other is doomed to failure. Oh, well. We both just may be correct.

Liberals/progressives are very out of touch on this topic, in terms of the rest of our fellow Americans. Maybe this is one reason all those people in the red states can’t stand the “liberal elites.”

So next time you call people who believe in God idiots, fairy tale believers, etc., CHECK YOURSELF. You’re not being very tolerant. Which makes you no better than RWNJs who aren’t very tolerant.

And remember, when you think believers are “idiots,” you’re referring to people like Malcom X, MLK, Jr., Isaac Newton, Nicholas Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, Rene Decartes, Galileo, and even Albert Einstein.

Yes, Einstein was a bit more complicated, but he did say,

In an interview published in 1930 in G. S. Viereck‘s book Glimpses of the Great, Einstein, in response to a question about whether or not he defined himself as a pantheist, explained:

Your question is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations.

End of rant.

Religion confusion

Religion confusion


About socolaura

Mom, educator, opinionated, passionate, smart, witty, wise Latina. Waiting for my moment of zen.
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